Pastels have always been one of my favorite media. They are a versatile material, and in the hands of a proficient artist they can be used to express a lot. I spoke with pastel artist Casey Klahn recently and the interview appears below. Casey has his portfolio at http://caseyklahn.blogspot.com/. He also has blogs at http://www.thecolorist.blogspot.com/ and http://pastelsblog.blogspot.com

How did you begin in art? “It isn’t remarkable that someone will start drawing in childhood, as I did at four years of age. But, immediately I began to draw for hours and hours a day, and that continued for thirteen years until I graduated from high school. I estimate that I made over 100,000 drawings in that time, and along the way I learned a thing or two.”
Can you tell us how you progressed through various media and particularly into pastels and abstract landscapes? “That progression question is an interesting one. I did use every type of flat media that is common to art, just like any other art student. But the pencil was my truest form of expression, and when I decided to become a professional about 12 years ago, I felt the urge to present color with my art. I had a feeling that I could do well with color, but that I didn’t have much experience beyond the basics of color theory. Pastel was the natural next step for a drawing-centric artist, but I quickly saw its potential and that it really is a great painting medium. So, the growth areas for me were to go into pastels, and into the landscape. Landscape was new for me since my standard subject had been the figure. Then came the abstracted landscape. I guess I had been abstracting the figure for many years, too, because you get tired of realism after a while. . . New, new, new! That’s the idea of art: an exploration into what is new for you, and perhaps new to the world at large.”

How did you develop your style into its present direction? “Mostly by looking intently at contemporary landscape and modern artists. Wolf Kahn is an obvious influence on me. If patrons compare me to him, which often happens, I say,
‘thank you’! That is no easy feat. ‘Artistic looking’ is important. I once saw a view through the trees about 2 miles past my house that has continued to influence me. I also have an image of the river by my childhood home that sticks in my mind. . . Intuitive color choices are the substance and subjects of my works. My compositions subvert everything to the color idea, and walk the line between color field work and the landscape.”
Please tell us what kinds of color selection you like to use? “Browns are not allowed in my palette. Only the three primary and the three secondary colors are used. This allows for greater intensities, and a unique look. I will use gray as a neutral, however. . . Mostly I like to just keep trying new things. Trial and error describes it well, or I like to call it ‘intuitive choice’. . . There is some thought that I put into choosing color, too. My pink and green series was a heart felt love of that composition, which I worked on kinesthetically for months before I got it down on paper.”

What will be your next project? “I heard of an artist who arbitrarily chooses to work with a two-color wheel, like red and blue. I want to try that next.”
Please tell us about your working techniques? “There are a few different patterns occur. As far as concept is concerned, I ruminate on color ideas for a long time before I start to explore them. Sometimes, however, I just start throwing down color in a quick composition. But, other times, I will actually have dreams ahead of time relating to ideas that I’ve been exploring. . . Frequently I will do a value study, which gets the shades and also the lines and shapes organized. I don’t wish to be too exact, however. Spontaneity is important to me.
I do know what I’m about when I approach the paper, and that confidence transmits to the image a sense of freshness and looseness. My ‘subjects’ are very limited to scenes in the trees. I grew up in the rain forests of coastal Washington State. You literally couldn’t see the forest for the trees, as they say. Nor could you see any sunlight!
About ten years ago we moved to Eastern Washington, where sunlight and open ground are the rule. I liken it to van Gogh’s move from the Low Countries and Paris to the Arles area in the south of France. Gray into color! People do sometimes try to describe an image of mine and they speak about light. That is way, way off of the mark.
In my weaning years on the coast, we had almost no direct sunlight ever. People would move there from Seattle and commit suicide. My art was about lines and shapes. Now, here in the sunny inland region, I suffer the intense sunlight. But what color! All of a sudden my art has intense, pure color. But my format still remembers the lack of direct sunlight and reliance on shapes and lines. And Modern Art influences me, with its flat, formal presentation.
My pastel images are executed very quickly. I don’t begin lightly and carefully layer up a perfect image. Instead I go in heavy and with intention. After all, I do know where I’m going. Few layers, heavy coverage, loose marks. I don’t create an image and then leave it on the easel to work on later. Do or die, you might say.”

What kind of tools, light, studio do you prefer? You mentioned pastels and Lascaux fixative – what brands of pastel, and what is the chemical content of your fixative? “My studio is being remodeled. I moved it out of the north room of my house, which we call the library, and am installing a freestanding studio by the old garden. Right now, the floor is half finished and we are getting ready to trench in the power cables. I’m chasing the frost to get the power in, so it’s very exciting stuff. Right now, I shiver in front of an electric space heater powered by a 100-foot extension cord. But, to answer my preference, I do rely on a north light widow, and a Dazor combination lamp. I have a track light in my new studio space where I have both warm and cool lights over my palette. I made my own really big shallow wooden tray that houses my assortment of pastels. Pastelists have hundreds and hundreds of sticks. And I made the table that it sits upon. It is waist high, and shallow enough that I can reach the whole tray plus a little extra room, and it is seven feet long. I resourced the Formica top from a salvage pile in a barn.
I am now making my own pastels, using powdered pigments. My favorite brand, though, is Diane Townsend. I write about
these things on my blogs, TheColorist and Pastel. The URLs are: www.thecolorist.blogspot.com and www.pastelsblog.blogspot.com. Behind Townsends come Sennelier, Schmincke and Unison. I also have about five other brands in my palette.
For a fixative, I use Blair for early layers where a little color change is insignificant. Later layers get Lascaux, which doesn’t change the color as far as I can tell. Lascaux is 10% Xylene and the balance is alcohol and propellants. No fixative goes on the finished work because of what it does to the structure. Pastel is a three dimensional thing to me, with two being the picture plane, and the layers of pastel being a third. Light goes in through the pastel, reflects off of the paper – which is why
I don’t choose black paper – and back to the eye.”

What are your sources of inspiration? “That’s a hard question. Certainly the objects, such as trees and skies are low on the list. I would say the formal parts of color are first, and then come the other formal elements, such as line and value and all of that. I am motivated by emotive and aesthetic qualities in painting. I participate in the broader society of art, but not so much that I need to be aware of what the ‘art world’ is up to. Art is personal, now. . . Beyond that, I have been making art for so long – about forty-five years – that I would say that art is a habit and an ingrained thing. Creative behavior is second
nature, or a part of one’s personality. Survival skill, maybe? I don’t know.”
What other contemporary pastel artists do you respect or appreciate? “That’s another subject that I write about in my blogs. . . To answer the question, I value Wolf Kahn for his newness, believe it or not. He has moved Abstract Expressionism onto the contemporary stage by using its formal stuff in landscapes that are nominally realist. Some probably burn him for that, and it is part of what I love about him. In your face expression, new color treatments, totally loose rendering. And behind him lie – directly – Mark Rothko and Hans Hoffman. Behind them lies van Gogh, who was the first really free artist with color. Vincent van Gogh stung me at an early stage in my artistic development. And he’s contemporary, right? I mean, a little over a hundred years is not that long in art history, in my opinion.
I appreciate Daniel Greene, who will be revered as a prominent guy in art history. He does for the portrait that which our day requires, and then takes it beyond. If I were a portraitist, I’d be on his doorstep. Harvey Dinnerstein is doing figures in pastel that emote classicism, but are ‘right now’ as far as I’m concerned. If we have an era of experientialism now, his figures stare out at us with full and moving presence. Those guys are realists, but that reflects our day – anything goes.”
What was the most difficult project or commission you’ve encountered? “Maybe generating this whole colorist signature has been the most difficult effort for me. It was hard to define, and a little hard staying on topic. Art fairs and gallery shows have caused me to be disciplined about that.”
Can you tell us about any interesting experiences with exhibitions, galleries, collectors or art writers? “Finding and identifying my audience has been an experience. That sounds crass and inartistic, in a way. Some one will slam me for saying this, I’m sure. But, in point of fact, I am slicing off huge segments of the public when I travel my road. The goal is not to broaden anything, but to focus on what my art is. The people who like my art – mostly artists and art professionals – shine a light back for me to see what I have been making.
Writing about my art is one-sided. Even in the social world of blogging. But, taking the art out to the public is not a choice, but a necessity for me. There I get, bit by bit, a type of cognition of what my art actually is, or ‘looks like’. I mean I still have to go into the studio and face the blank paper alone. But, I rely so much on intuitive process that often I never stop to think about meaning or whatever. I just make. Rothko was big on the invigoration – or death – of one’s art out in the public.”
What kind of pricing do you put on your work? Can it be bought from your website directly? “People can get me directly on the phone or by e-mail. Since I don’t put my art in prints, I don’t count on the Internet for much selling. I use it more as a resource for those who want to follow up on me after having seen my originals in person. I have a great deal of antipathy towards the camera, which prints are based on. Maybe there is some of van Gogh’s blood in me. He hated the camera, too.
My art will be at the Karlson/Gray Gallery in Langley, Washington for January. After that, I usually do the Bellevue ArtsFair and the Park City Art Festival. Those are in July and August. Also, the Spokane ArtFest in June is my local venue.
An example of a price for my pastels would be about $800 – $900 for a 13 or 14 inch by about 10 inch piece. I stay
self-consistent by pricing according to size, but I also respond to demand over time. Gallery and fair or in-studio prices are all the same, but the market does change. Get hold of me now while I’m relatively undiscovered!”

What are your interests and dislikes in contemporary art? “My interests are modern authenticity and creativity. But I don’t much care for forced or extravagant abnormality. It was Thomas Hart Benton – maybe in his waning years – who
said that the only thing in art that he really cared about was ‘Thomas Hart Benton’. My art world is 90% what I want
and need to do, and the balance is what I want to see that teaches me.
Flat medium art interests me. New mediums, or non-medium arts don’t interest me much. I mean, pastel is the oldest
medium, isn’t it? I’m thinking about doing an imaginary interview of a cave man who uses ground-up pigment and applies it to rocks. And yet, I still insist that creating the new painting is the center of what artists do. Has every possible picture been painted? Certainly not!”
Thank you Casey for the insights and experiences.
- Giselle Borzov
ABBAS RAZA of 3 Quarks Daily Blog
July 31, 2007Blogs offer a lot on the internet in relation to the arts. I read many articles with contemporary art subject matter. One blog that I found to be particularly interesting in scope and depth is the 3 Quarks Daily Blog. 3 Quarks Daily has articles from all areas of cultural concern including contemporary art. I contacted Abbas Raza of 3 Quarks Daily and requested an interview.
What is your role with 3 Quarks Daily? “I am the founder and primary editor.”
What has been the main focus of 3 Quarks to date? especially in relation to art? “We don’t have a focus and we are proud of that. We feel like we engage any and all fields of intellectual endeavor. Six days a week, we link to articles from the more
serious magazines and journals and book reviews, and sometimes blogs, and one day -Monday – we have original writing by our editors and guest columnists. So we are a combination of filter blog and weekly magazine, in a way. The Monday columns are all collected here:
Your blog includes commentary on art but this seems to be more from the observation of a social or cultural phenomena – do you have an interest in the esthetics of art? “I personally do happen to have an interest in aesthetics. As part of my Ph.D. program at Columbia, I took one of my qualifying exams in aesthetics and worked with Richard Kuhns and Arthur Danto, and I retain a fascination with some of the areas of philosophy of art that I was exposed to then. As a site, we often post links to art-related material – especially my co-editor and president of the well-known Queens art-collective Flux Factory, Morgan Meis – and we have had original writing about art, as well – for example see Timothy Don’s columns at 3QD. In addition, my sister Sughra, who is a very fine doctor but also has a fine arts degree, posts an art image every Monday, with some links to more information about the art, artist, etc.”
When considering contemporary art what kinds of creative expression would you like to see? “Some of the most arresting
visual images I have been seeing in the last ten years have been on ads on billboards, in magazines, etc. I think fine artists should relax their focus on the cognitive aspects of art – stop trying to be meaningful in some deep way — that’s SO last-millennium, as my niece might say! – and produce stuff which is cool to look at. And there is a lot of cool stuff out there. Playfulness is key, I think.”
Do you have any conceptions on what the limits of art creation should involve, or what the limits of art exhibition should
involve? “No, I don’t.”
What kinds of relationship would you see as healthy between art and world culture? “Identity. In other words, art IS world culture and vice-versa.”
Where does abstract or nonobjective art sit on your spectrum of creative expression? “I don’t have some sort of hierarchy of art in my head into which I might attempt to fit abstract forms of art. Obviously, they have an important place.”
“Perceptions: Chaos or Choreography?”
Photograph by Harry Callahan. Circus, Chicago, 1955.
Does 3 Quarks have any upcoming directions or projects? “3QD itself is an ongoing project and we plan to keep doing what we do. We do ten posts a day, every day, so it is quite relentless!. We don’t have any special projects coming up, though we are considering holding some online seminars on interesting and important topics.”
What are your sources of inspiration? “For me, personally: ideas coming out of the academy, ideas coming from the intellectual journals, ideas coming from the press, ideas coming from the blogosphere, ideas coming from my cat, ideas coming out of my own head. In that order.”
What other blogs do you admire – especially arts-related blogs? “I like, in alphabetical order: Amitava Kumar, Arts & Letters Daily, Cosmic Variance, Crooked Timber, David Byrne’s Journal, Jason Kottke, The Loom, Majikthise, Mtanga, and Wood’s Lot. And other’s too numerous to list here. Have a look at the ‘Links’ page at 3QD.”
What has been the most difficult content or controversy you have had to deal with – especially art-related? “We haven’t ‘had’ to deal with anything, really. We do post about ongoing controversies sometimes, but it’s not as if we are getting death threats or anything. . . The worst abuse anyone on our site has gotten has probably been when my friend and co-editor Robin Varghese got a comment on something he had written, saying, ‘Shut up, you commie pinko!’”
Do you have any interesting experiences with arts-related material that you can share? “No, they are all top secret and highly classified. I could tell you, but then I’d have to . . .”
Thank you Abbas Raza for your candor and the fine blog reading. I wish 3 Quarks Daily continued success and the best of readerships.
- Giselle Borzov
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